Being Present and Getting Facialized (#64)

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We had an absolute blast with our presence challenge. Food journaling was incredibly insightful, and the daily pictures were really interesting to look back on.That said, it's time for a new challenge! We've been requested to do a skincare challenge.

Find out what products we'll be using, and when we'll be using them. Cross your fingers this ends up fun for the two of us!

Show Notes:

Presence Results:

There's lots of pictures in this one. If you're looking for a glimpse into our eating habits, or daily lives, this is a pretty interesting view that not a lot of people necessarily share on a regular basis.



Legion Frisbee Team:


If you look closely, you may see Daniel.

Leaf by Niggle by J.R.R. Tolkein:

Book cover of Leaf by Niggle
Leaf by Niggle


Just look at that gorgeous cover. You just know this is going to be great.

Tiege Hanley - Daniel's Skincare

Looks fancy.


One of the sponsors for Legion, so this is what Daniel will be trying.

Geologie - Andrew's Skincare


A semi affordable, somewhat customizable skincare routine system.

A Man at Arms by Steven Pressfield

Gritty. Violent. Well done.


A book we both coincedentally ended up reading at the same time. It's pretty good, if you're into history and romans and such.

Challenge 8 Journal: Notion


It's funny. Andrew's been hyper into Airtable for half a year now, but just as it starts being used over here on the podcast, Notion rears it's beautiful head and has his attention now.

Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Daniel: Hi guys, and welcome to the dead bytomorrow podcast. My name is Daniel winter and my co-host is Andrew Monroe ineach episode, Andrew and I will explore topics that you should think aboutbefore you die. We encourage you to remember that some tomorrow will be yourlast, so each day could be your final chance to really

[00:00:20] Andrew: hello, everyone. Welcome back to theshow. We are as always thrilled to have you on Daniel. And I have just wrappedup our presence, challenge, and guys, what, what disliked, and then we'll jumpthis next challenge, which is. Uh, 80% of Aug or, uh, September 80% ofSeptember. And like, 10% of October seems to be how we're going.

So, uh, let's give you the August slash 10% September updateand jump into the next challenge. So, Daniel, how was your weekend? Everythinggood.

[00:00:56] Daniel: Everything's good. It was labor dayweekend. So spent some time hanging out with the family. My parents came up andwe ate some food. We got a lot of Riley time. I played a little, uh, it was, itwas basically just like a Frisbee practice. I think it was supposed to be likea showcase game or something like that.

But marketing is not, not the team's strong suit. So there weresome passer buys that probably were like, wow, these guys look way too, uh,color coordinated to be playing this stupid sport. They're probably stupid. Andthen walked on.

[00:01:33] Andrew: So something, when you talked aboutthat, just outta my curiosity, uh, I didn't realize there'd been a name change.When did the name change happen?

[00:01:41] Daniel: Oh, from, from roughneck to Legion.

[00:01:44] Andrew: Yeah, I like Legion. It's cool.

[00:01:46] Daniel: Um, yeah, the name change happenedthis year. So when the roughnecks were started, it was a, it was like a threepart ownership. There were three parties. Um, and then this year, one of theparties bought out the other two parties. Ironically enough, the, one of theparties he bought out was the party that had, you know, all the money.

So money's kind of been tight this year, I suppose. So when,when they bought it out, um, they did a whole like name and brand change. Sochanged it from roughneck to leg.

[00:02:21] Andrew: Okay. Cool. Well, I listened to that.Uh, wow. I forgot the name already. Uh, man, at arms book. And I, you know, I'mback, I'm back on the, the Legion train. So

[00:02:35] Daniel: that book was excellent. I finished ityesterday. Yep.

[00:02:38] Andrew: Oh, wow. There you

[00:02:39] Daniel: I did. It was.

[00:02:41] Andrew: What'd you think?

[00:02:42] Daniel: I, I thought it was a really goodbook. I, I was getting vibes of like the Mandalorian, but I felt like the storywas just a lot better.

um, you know, you

[00:02:54] Andrew: a good, uh, analogy. Yeah, it'stotally Mandalorian. Huh?

[00:03:00] Daniel: but yeah, it was, it was good. Theending

[00:03:02] Andrew: it from

[00:03:03] Daniel: yeah, the ending was a little, alittle more poignant than I expected.

[00:03:08] Andrew: yeah, it was rough. So I enjoyed itthough. Very emotional. It was a, it was a darkish book too. Like, yeah, don'tcome into that book. If anybody's listening and wants to read it, it's. It'snot gonna make you feel happy necessarily. Um,

[00:03:22] Daniel: no,

[00:03:23] Andrew: they deal with some stuff. So how didthe challenge go for you?

We, we took some pictures, or at least I attempted to takepictures every day. I know you took pictures almost every day, and then we dida food journal. So let's start with the pictures. How did taking pictures gofor.

[00:03:37] Daniel: It's it's ironic that you say that.Cuz I, I was gonna come in and confess that the, probably the last, maybe likefive days, I just kind. Fell off the picture train. I, I kind of lost somesteam. but early on I was, I was going strong. It was, it was fun to try totake different pictures of the things that I was doing.

So we, you know, have things like a lobster boil. I, I took apicture of my chemics just to kind of write about sort of my daily routine,because what, what I tried to do, if I. If I had more time and if I was morethoughtful was I tried to write a little bit more something to go alongside thepicture. So my chems had a nice little entry just about like how my, like, I reallyenjoy my morning routine.

I make coffee and eggs and toast pretty much every morning. Irecently got, a scale so I can get a little bit more precise with the coffeemaking and it's. And I start my day out on a high note every day. And then, youknow, as the picture challenge went on, I think my, my last picture was Jakestanding on a bench, looking at a tree and it just says cute dog, which he is acute dog, but

[00:04:49] Andrew: He is

[00:04:50] Daniel: obviously not a lot of thought wentinto that one.

[00:04:53] Andrew: where's that

picture taken at? That does not look like your house.

[00:04:55] Daniel: no, that I was walking around theneighborhood. There's a neighborhood garden down

[00:05:00] Andrew: Uh, gotcha.

[00:05:02] Daniel: Yeah. So I mean, it. It's one of thosethings that I now sort of wish I had been more consistent in taking dailypictures. Cuz looking back in the month, that's kind of cool to see like, ohyeah, we did, you know, that lobster boil.

And like it was just this month that I finished my deck projectand then, you know, we would did a little family trip to Tyler, Texas seeingsome pictures of that and um, you know, did a. Had a Frisbee tournament. We gotour jerseys in, we got a team picture. Um, so that was a whole lot of fun. Soyeah, it's just, it's definitely meaningful to look back to the month and say,wow, there were a lot of really cool things that happened this month.

[00:05:40] Andrew: So

[00:05:41] Daniel: how'd you feel about the picturechallenge?

[00:05:43] Andrew: well, so I, I enjoyed it and it, Ihave the same thing. I'm just looking back through it and I'm like, wow. That.Less than 30 days go. Holy crap. Uh, there's this quote. I was talking to mydad about just maybe last week, the week before. And the quote is, uh, mostpeople overestimate what they can accomplish in a year and underestimate whatthey can accomplish in five years.

And it's usually business related, but I feel like it alsoscales down to think a day versus a month. Like you, most of us probablyoverestimate what we can get done in a day. But most of us also underestimatewhat gets done in a month. Cause going back to this, I'm like, wow, that was,that was just last month.

And you know, all this different stuff and all. I guess theemotional roller coaster that goes with all these different pictures that I'mseeing. Um, each one had like its little moment. So it was kind of cool. Uh, Idefinitely did the same as you. Uh, the last few days I did not do as welltaking pictures.

Um, I threw one last one up that was just a selfie on the planewith Shami and said's typical photo of Shlomi and I for pretty weak did itwhile I was driving, uh, doing some errands, um, But other than that, like alot of 'em same thing I put in some pretty decent anecdotes about the picturesand. I don't know if that gives the pictures more weight or if just the factthat I took the time to, you know, I guess be present and pay attention to whatI was looking at and what it meant to me was really interesting.

And, you know, there's, there's some weird stuff in here. Youknow, I went to Vegas twice this month, which is just wild to me, um, andreally sad for my, uh, wallet, but we did that. You know, I had two differentmoments where, and it was weird because they were pretty close together. Um,but I had one with a para tree where.

My dad had planned it when his dad died. And that was, youknow, something I hadn't really thought about in years. And then that kind ofled into some scotch. We got, that, um, was said grandfather's favorite scotch.And so we had a little toast with his scotch at one point, um, that was earlyin the month. Uh, and just some of the stuff, um, Probably the craziest thingfor the month, besides my double trip, actually, I'm gonna go with two crazythings.

One, uh, there was a dog that I walked home and, uh, I dunno, acouple weeks ago and walked into the house and she's yelling that she needshelp because there's dog in the house. And so IM thinking we're under attackbecause of. The way she's going about it, but there's this, this little nice,cute dog. And it, and Jasper were just trying to sniff each other withoutcoming too close to each other.

And she had no idea what to do with it. So we spent the rest ofthe a or evening, I guess, uh, trying to take care of this dog and find itsowner. And it was this very winding process. Um, so that was interesting. Andthen probably the final thing of the pictures that I thought was kinda cool.Um, and again, He doesn't, I didn't do a good job inside that anecdote.

We talked about the notes section of the picture where it'slike, Hey, here's all of the feelings I'm thinking about when I'm saying this.But basically there was a talking book that I had never heard of, and that wasjust. It, it was humbling, which is weird to say like, oh, you didn't knowabout a book.

Like, but that's kind of my thing sometimes. And especiallyToki, there was a Toki book that I, you know, I haven't read all this stuff,but I definitely would've guaranteed. I knew everything he had written. Um, andit was just in its own little list somewhere. So finding out there was thisentire book that some people think is his best work he's done, um, existing outthere that I had never even heard of was really cool.

And it just. It brought up a whole lot of nostalgia and didn't,you know, it didn't help that rings of power was coming out. And, uh, all thethings that Lord of the rings used to make me feel as a kid really kind of camebubbling back to the surface. And, uh, weirdly emotional, I guess, is what I'mgetting at.

Like, not like on the ground crying, emotional, but definitelylike elevated like nostalgia and. I guess you could almost say like ancientthoughts or memories coming up and like the things that related to seeing themovies the first time, or the first time I read the books or, you know, thefirst Halloween that I went is something that wasn't an N, which was, I toldeverybody I was Gimley, but I was actually trying to be AROR, but I wasn'treally very good at close reading at the time.

And so I got a little mixed up in my head, which one wasGimley, which one was Airborn. Um, so I had an ax, uh, It's very confusing. Solike stuff like that all came up just from this little book that came up and Ihaven't gotten to read it yet, but it was just cool that there was this bookout there that leaf by niggle

Yeah, just by, just by seeing a cover and being like, oh mygoodness. And then that, you know, would've been like a Lord of rings. Like, ohyeah. Lord of the rings and I would've kept going, but it was like, wait, whatis leaf by Niel? Toki wrote this? Like, is it the sun? Nope. Jr. Are to, andthen it just kind of stops you in your tracks and make you just sit there andthink like, how does this exist?

Is this a fake, am I not who? I think I am. Like, it was aminor existential crisis.

[00:10:58] Daniel: Sorry, I'm just, I'm just over here.Googling leaf by Niel. Now

[00:11:03] Andrew: Um, it's short. It's a little so I've,I've got a copy of in my backpack right now. I was really hoping to read itwhile I was in Vegas, but past weekend, but reading some Sanderson on my phoneand had like zero time to read while were like actually in Vegas. And so I justkind of sat there, but I mean, Uh, paper thin.

Well, it's not even a pun. That's just poor choice of words.

[00:11:31] Daniel: I think it's a pun

[00:11:32] Andrew: its a pun. We'll go with

[00:11:34] Daniel: well added to your.

[00:11:36] Andrew: It's it's really, uh, really, reallysmall from the article that I, that led me to this book. They actually talkedabout that. This was one of the only things that Toki himself considered. Likesome of his best work, because he was like, this is the only thing I've writtenthat actually just came to me. I wrote it down.

I was done, you know, everything else was heavily edited,heavily reworked, you know, massive amounts of time and effort went intowriting and rewriting and editing and, and everything with his books. But leafby Niel was a. Afternoon. He just sat down, wrote it and was done. So it'sshort enough to be written in an afternoon.

So it's probably short enough to be written in the afternoon,but just wrote it down and he was done. He was like, here, publish this badboy. And it's supposed to just be really sweet little coming of age story. Ithink, um, article kind of went into detail on it, but I stopped reading afterI probably got a few introductory paragraphs down.

I was like, well, I'm just gonna go read this and I wanna spoilanything.

[00:12:37] Daniel: Nice. I'm gonna definitely check thatout. Yeah, I think on the, on the pictures, my big takeaway is that, and, andI, I probably already knew this about myself because every now and then I willgo through my phone and look through pictures, but I just need to be a littlebit more conscious of trying.

document some of the smaller moments in life and in the bigmoments in life too. And so I think it's just being more, I, I guess the goalwas being more present. Right. Um, but it's, , I don't know. It's a strugglebecause in the past I've sort of seen taking pictures, taking videos. Notbeing, as in the moment, it's like, Hey, just enjoy this moment. So I thinkthere's a line that you can cross of.

Um, I remember in college we would just goof around all thetime, do silly things, especially Sam and I, and there would be one or twopeople that instead of just goofing around and like doing the funny dance stuffwith us and like being in the midst of it, like they would just film everythingon their phones and I would get so mad cuz I would.

Why aren't you participating in like being a part of this? Andso I, I think you can, there can be a line of sort of hiding behind the camerain the, in the video. I, something that's probably more relatable to people isgoing to a concert and everybody just, you know, watching the concert throughtheir phone while they're videoing and taking pictures of things the whole time,instead of just enjoying the concert.

So I think you can definitely take it overboard. Then at thesame time, it's nice to leave that concert and have these little snippets whereit's like, oh man, that was that song. Like my favorite part of that song, itwas so cool to like relive re experience that moment. So yeah, I think that'smy over all takeaways.

Just not being too hard on myself about taking some pictures,taking some videos, um, cuz future me will appreciate.

[00:14:34] Andrew: Oh, I think that's a great point onwhere he might have come up with this idea. Like, Hey, I don't wanna take thesepictures cause I do the same thing. It's, you know, Hey, I don't wanna be thatperson at the concert. That's filming the whole thing. Um, and I don't wanna bethe person that's pulling out from the.

Activity, uh, I wanna take pictures, but at the same time itreally did kind of show up as this, like, you know, Hey, there's, it's reallycool seeing some of this stuff and really it cost practically zero time. Um, Iguess technically we could probably attribute 10, 15, maybe 20 minutes throughthe entire month of, of stopping, taking a picture and then maybe writing alittle note about it.

Um, I mean, tiny, tiny amount of time. I think that's where.You kind of need to find that line as one. Is it relationship focused? Is ityou trying to, you know, add to the moment or is it you're trying to dosomething that you hope will, you know, you're taking to impress people andthat's where I think the big.

Cut for you and I are for you. And I is, is like, Hey, is thisjust you trying to make your life look interesting? Is this just for the gram?Is this just for social media and TikTok and everything like that? Are youtrying to, you know, Repackage this moment for social kudos down the road, orare you actually trying to enjoy this moment and appreciating it?

And that's why you're taking a picture. And I think as long asyou have that, that mindset around like, Hey, this is, this is a really goodmoment. I'd like to remember this moment. I think that's so cool that we havethe ability to take those pictures and the videos and be able to appreciate itdown the road.

Because as we've all heard, you. You never know you're in thosegood times until after they've passed. And I think we'd all wish that we'vecaptured more of the good times. And, and it's not saying that we're not ingood times, but right now it's good times. If you're having a great time withyour friends, those are going to be the good times down the road.

Whenever that friend passes away or they move away and you'llget to see him again, where you're just older and your knees don't work aswell. So making sure that you're using that camera of your. For the rightreasons, I think is really where that line is. It's not necessarily a timelimit or anything like that.

It's just make sure you're doing stuff for the right reasons,especially when it comes to, you know, relationships and stuff you're doingwith your friends or, you know, things that people find meaningful. You know,half my pictures were just architecture or things that other people have doneand me appreciating.

But Hey, let's get off the pedestal. Food was the second partof that challenge. what did you think about the food? Uh, you, I'm gonna throwthis out there. You were a lot more consistent on eating. Well, just from whatI looked at versus what I did, August was a rough month for me. Um, in terms ofthe clean eating I was hoping to do.

But what did you think about it? Did you learn anything new aboutyour food habits? Anything pop.

[00:17:34] Daniel: So I think the main thing about thefood journal is that it caused me to think about everything that I was eating,because I knew that I would need to go and log it in the tracker. And sothere'd be moments where I would think like, You know, getting a cookie rightnow kind of sounds great. Or I don't know, getting a margarita dinner, but thenI would think about like, well, I, then I need to log this in here.

And it kind of makes it goes from making this meal, be onewhere I'm gonna feel good to where I'm gonna feel neutral or I'm gonna feelbad. And so that was definitely interesting is just. Anytime I was eatingsomething then going and writing down what I'm eating and reflecting back onthat. And yeah, I, I think I was pretty consistent with eating well atbreakfast.

Like I said, I'd eat eggs and some toast, a little bit of jamand coffee nearly every day. So a little bit of sugar from the jam. But asidefrom that, it's, you know, some whole wheat bread and eggs, so pretty healthythere. Um, Yeah. In terms of dinner and lunches that went well for a lot of themonth. Um, cuz Hillary is a really awesome cook and I'm totally cool witheating leftovers pretty much every day.

And since I'm working at home a lot, I don't really have thetemptation of going out to eat all that often. Um, now again, I, like Imentioned, I kind of fell off in some of the tracking towards the back half ofthe month and. Coincidentally or maybe non coincidentally? I, I feel like I'venot eaten well this weekend, aside from a meeting at a har Christian temple,that was all like vegan food.

Um, you know, in and out today, barbecue food truck today stillhave my normal good breakfast, um, like a hole, the wall seafood placeyesterday. Uh, so many cookies. So much cake just so many sweets. And so, yeah,I mean, I it's, it's a cyclical thing for sure. So I feel like it, it came inat a, a helpful time, but I guess overall, what I would say is if, if you'resomebody that wants to eat a little bit healthier, just start recording whatyou're eating full stop.

And I think that will actually. Help you to be more consciousof what you're eating and kind of push you towards eating. He.

[00:20:10] Andrew: A hundred percent. I think just the,the fact that you're writing it down, taking pictures of it, thinking about it,your body just kind of. So I was like, Hey, maybe I or not your body, yourmind's like, Hey, maybe that canes doesn't sound so great after all, maybe Ishould try and find something else. That that was kinda where I fell apart wasif I was. My discipline was liking because I felt like I was kind of rushed allmonth, which is kind of a state of being that I'm working on. I still need toread that, uh, the hustle book that you talked about, I actually ran into C whohad the book on his desk, was like, oh, Daniel, read that. I need to read it.

Hadn't read it either yet. It's on my list. Need to time forit. The moments when I was, you know, I'd, I'd blow through lunch working orwhatever, and like two o'clock would hit and I'd get to kind of a stoppingpoint. And I would just be starving because I'd missed breakfast. And it was,you know, past lunchtime, like two o'clock is just kind of where my, my begins.

And so at that point, like I have to leave because I thoughtI'm gonna start yelling at people. So I would go and just try and findsomething to get really. And so I ended up at canes or I ended up getting like,you know, scones or something and it just, it wasn't doing well for me. But bythe time that I realized that I was eating canes, I was like, wait, you have torecord this in your journal to be like, man, now I've gotta put canes again onthe journal.

Dang it. And I'd be so upset, but like, Because I wasn't givingmyself enough time to even think I would be making bad decisions before. Like,just in, I'm not gonna say instinctually, but I was following bad habits. I'vedeveloped where it's like, I'll really quick, takes 15, 20 minutes round to getthere, get food hungry anymore.

So that was one of the big problems I had. Uh, I think the fixfor that would be better planning and better. You know, stacking of what I'mgoing to eat throughout the week, having breakfast would probably have been agood start because that would also fix probably the hang group problems whereit's like, you just need to eat something before you turn into the Hulk.

So I was really bad about that. I was really planning on tryingto have protein shakes every morning for breakfast, but I just, I would get tothe office at seven 30. Think I'm gonna have a protein shake or something forbreakfast. Maybe some of the snacks I keep in the drawer and. Then the daywould start before anybody before it was forced, excuse me, before it wassupposed to every time.

And then the next thing you know, it's two o'clock and I'm, youknow, just dead. So, uh, that was a bit of a struggle. Uh, travel was reallyhard for me too. I mentioned we went to Vegas twice. This month also went toLubbock for a weekend. So, uh, I probably was in town for one weekend ofAugust. And I'm sure I didn't behave myself for the one weekend because I wasprobably exhausted and excited.

I'll have to go back through the calendar, actually figure outwhich weekend that was, but, um, probably didn't do well there either. And youknow, it was just, it really screwed up my ability to plan for the week and myability to eat clean and eat the way I wanted to. Cause we'd be somewhere I'mlike, well, You know, I'm in a different city.

I'm not in Amarillo. How can I not order 12 people's worth offood to eat in one sitting, obviously. So, uh, that was a, that was a bit of astruggle for me. I had some really good food. Honestly, there was some stuffthat made me feel good and it tasted great. Um, But I also had plenty of stuffthat I definitely should have eaten.

So it was a bit give or take, but I think my biggest takeawayto wrap up this, uh, little challenge explanation was I kind of had thisfeeling that Kanes like was messing with me, but I mean, it was legitimatelymaking me feel awful afterwards. I thought it was just like a mental fog maybe.Um, but like I realized after four or five canes meals, this August, I wasactually like getting like borderline allergic reaction.

Like my throat would be like itchy and hard to talk after I'dbe like coughing up flim. so canes is like out, out like it . And even knowingthat I still got it like a couple more times, like, well, maybe that was afluke and I was just having some allergies and fluke a week later, I'm eatingcanes. I'm like, wait, I know better.

Oh, did reinforcing some habits gonna be difficult butnecessary?

[00:24:35] Daniel: Yeah, no, that's fair. And I, soobviously there's the Cannes thing. Do you feel like there are any other habitsthat throughout the food journaling that you formed or things that you saw thatyou wanna change to have a healthier eating dynamic going forward?

[00:24:53] Andrew: Yeah. So this was something that Ifound was a little interesting for me. Um, If you were to ask me like, HeyAndrew, do you usually eat breakfast? I'd be like, yeah. I usually probably eatbreakfast. I just don't necessarily plan. I don't have anything set in stone,but you look at the month and I don't eat breakfast.

And there was this, this pattern emerged where I'm skippingbreakfast, uh, semi unintentionally, I'm having a couple coffees, which Ididn't put into the food journal. So I just left coffee out. Cause I've beenlike. Quintuple the entries, uh, per day so, uh, but I'd have coffee in themorning and then I would almost every single day.

Just not make a conscious effort to have food until it likebuilt up into being a problem. And then I'd overeat. And even with theovereating at lunch, having canes or having something I'd feel bad by the timedinner came around, I'm still in a Calor deficit to an extent, and not by muchbut enough that I'm hungry by dinner time.

And then I'd have dinner and dessert and. At that point, I blowthrough any, you know, balance on my calories for starters, but also I wouldjust, I would feel gross to my stomach. Like I was, I was overeating because Iwas shoving too much into two meals. Uh, I think one of the big takeaways forme on that pattern was I really need to make a focus on making sure I'm havinga good, decent breakfast.

Not really sure when I stopped doing that, but, uh, it was alittle bit problematic then. Snacking. All of my snacks were unhealthy. Likeliterally every single one of them, I did not have a healthy snack. Uh, it'ssomething I need to probably work on replacing with apples or some kind offruit or something like that, you know, heck of peanut butter and jelly sandwichreally would be better than half the candy and stuff I was eating.

So that was another interesting pattern that I didn't reallylike going forward. Would've expected to record like, oh yeah, you eat candylike once a day, every other day or so, but, um, yeah, kinda interesting. I'mnot paying attention to what I'm doing. Daniel is what I'm saying. I'm lettingmomentum take me away.

[00:27:02] Daniel: Yeah, no, I, I think that's the bigadvantage of the journaling is you realize how much you feel like something isjust every now and then, and then you see holy cow. I never eat breakfast orI'm eating candy every day. I was trying to look through. And like I said,this, this past month was, was a pretty solid month.

I mean, some of it may, maybe it depends on like yourdefinition of eating. Well, like for me, if I'm just eating some pretzels and aprotein shake as a snack, I consider that a good snack. It's not, it's notanything like super sugary or whatever. Um, but yeah, and I. I know though, andI, I didn't record it, but I know my bad snacks in the past, probably fivedays.

I would imagine quadruple the bad snacks that I had for themonth while I was recording. So yeah, writing it down really works. Wonder.

[00:28:09] Andrew: Yeah, well, and that's, that's good.You know, most of the stuff I did, it was also like the snacking was also inthose moments where like, I basically blanked out. Until I got some food in meand it's like, ah, man, did it again. Got those Reeses

[00:28:24] Daniel: Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, that's whereit's like the, the meal routines can be beneficial. Not necessarily justwaiting until you eat because, or until you're hungry, because if you waituntil you're hungry, It's more likely you make a bad decision.


[00:28:41] Andrew: absolutely. It's so easy to justifystuff whenever you want it. like, but if I'm, if I had a protein shake or adouble scoop of protein shaking me and I was like, I should have canes. I'mlike, eh, that's a bad choice. Let's not do that. Cause honestly, almost everyday I wanted canes, but you could see the days that I did do better were almostalways the days that I had a protein. And those were that it's like, oh, I haveenough self control because I'm not just ravenous that I, that I can choose formyself and not just completely justify eating a pizza at lunch or orderingburgers on Uber eats, you know, whatever it was. There was lots of baddecisions. Thorough rock you'll hit one.

So definitely eating with a plan is better than not.

[00:29:24] Daniel: totally.

[00:29:26] Andrew: All


[00:29:27] Daniel: skincare?

[00:29:28] Andrew: Let's get into it. Let's get intoskincare for the female audience, uh, per at least one female audience member'srequest. And I don't know if there's others, uh, Shlomi may be on her own, butshe specifically asks that I keep in mind or female audience and we should do askincare challenge. So here we are challenge number, I believe seven.

Are we at eight? I guess this would be eight challenge number.Is going to be a skincare routine. So I already kind of know what I'm gonna do.What are you gonna do? What, what you gonna change?

[00:30:03] Daniel: I am not completely sure yet because Ifairly recently, um, got this skincare sort of care package for. I'm trying tolook up the it's it's called T Hanley. And I guess they're a partner for the, aUDL, which is the professional Frisbee league. And so they gave all of theplayers, this skincare box thing with like a face wash and moisturizer.

So I've been doing that. And to me it feels like, wow, I, Ihave a skincare routine now. Asking me to do more than that. I, I don't know. Ineed to think about it. Um, so maybe, maybe I'll do this, uh, this, this teaHandly group a favor, since they gave me some free stuff, maybe I'll see whatelse they have. And since I'm just doing a morning routine, maybe they've gotsomething for a nighttime routine and I'll.

Give that a try and aside from that, I wear so much moresunscreen than I used to. That's probably one of the best things you canhonestly do is if you're out in the sun a lot, which I am, uh, liberallyapplying sunscreen.

[00:31:17] Andrew: I'm so glad you mentioned that. CauseI was, I was about to get on my pedestal as well about sunscreen. I was like,man, I am, I am not the right person to be preaching about this. Um but that's,that's everything I've seen. Uh, sunscreen is so incredibly important. Did oneof the things in your morning routine, like be like a SPF moisturizer.

[00:31:38] Daniel: It is.

[00:31:40] Andrew: Perfect. That that is from what Iunderstand from men's health magazine and other moments of clarity, thinkingabout skincare on the internet, uh, the single best thing can do is that SPFmoisturizer every single day. Um, Personally, I'm going to be doing face wash.Let me actually get off the pedestal.

We're going backwards here. We're gonna go Neanderthal. I hateface wash face wash. See, can't even say it. I hate it so much. Drives meinsane. It always gets my eyes. No matter how hard I try, that's gonna probablybe my biggest change. I'm gonna try and use face wash and I'm, I'm pissed aboutit. Honestly. I hate it.

I hate it so much. So I'll be trying to use some face wash.Every morning and every night, and then I've got a SPF moisturizer that I'll beusing every day. That has actually been something I've done pretty well,especially since going bald. Uh, and then I've got some night stuff where itgets a little weird to me, but there's like ice cream and a nighttimemoisturizer that feels really thick and different.

Um, some exfoliating cream that I'm supposed to use everycouple of days. So I'm gonna try and do all this. Partly for the face, but alsoapparently I've gotta do it all over my head. Something I was reading on theplane back yesterday, so I'm gonna treat the face and the head as the samething and really try and get that good face wash moisturization protocol goingand probably do an morning and evening routine.

And I'll try and post some before and after pictures and see ifthere's any difference. But, uh, I guess we'll see, I hope the girls reallyenjoy this. And honestly, I hope everybody enjoys it. I hope at least the onefemale appreciates our attempted listening

but I hope

[00:33:31] Daniel: one's for you. Shalom.

[00:33:32] Andrew: Yeah. This is for her interesting.It's nothing I've ever really put much thought towards. And honestly, I'veresisted to a fair extent, um, which is probably not healthy, but here we are.

So you gonna do anything. Are you just gonna track, you know,Hey, this is what I did every day, basically. Same thing as a resident, tryingto hit some daily stuff or, you know, are you gonna do anything wild attempt a,a spa day with a face exfoliation and a skin peel?

[00:34:03] Daniel: You know, skin, skin peel soundsterrifying and awful. So anything with chemical in it? No, I'm not gonna dothat. I'll like I said, I'll add something as far as like a nighttime routine.And I think I'll, I'll obviously take a picture here in a moment. I'm a littlesunburn, so this will work out well, cuz at the beginning of the month I'll belike, oh, he looks a little bit like a tomato.

And then at the end of the month, I'll not have a Frisbeetournament for a week or so. So I'm sure I'll look. Um, so I don't really needto do anything is what I'm getting at, but no, I'll, I'll try to take, um, somepictures throughout. I'm curious to see if there's really gonna be all thatmuch of a difference in a month, but we'll see maybe.

[00:34:52] Andrew: So I actually did one of the chemicalscary things. Shlomi got me a facial for my birthday, I think two years ago, atsome point. And I went in, did this facial and. I'm not gonna lie. I came outvery relaxed. It was a very pleasant experience and my face felt weird. If thatmakes sense. Like, it felt very different.

Um, plump even like plump, not, not, not in the fat way, plumpand the like filled with vigor kind of plump. Uh, it was uncanny. I'm justgonna put that there. It was well worth the experience, honestly, like Idefinitely felt different, looked somewhat different. So, uh, that, that isprobably something I'll try and book up for this month.

If I can find a free day, I'll probably go do that as well. Andtry and supercharge this, uh, health routine on my face. Especially now thatI'm bald. I think I definitely had hair last time. So I wonder if they'll do mywhole head, uh, get man, when you shave your head, this is, this is TMI foreverybody, including you, Daniel.

But when you shave your head down, uh, you find a lot morepimples than you, uh, generally expect to be hiding under your hair. And eventhat that's not just the first time, every time all I have. Like a of hair,like I'll shave my head, like Friday, shave my head again today, new pimplesthat I even see under my like five o'clock shadow of a head.

And it's just like, what is happening under there? Uh, it'sweird. So, you know, it might be worthwhile.

[00:36:36] Daniel: Yeah, I know I've got pimples in myhead. I can feel them. I will be combating the Michael Jordan until the baldspot appears. And then I'll be right there. I'll be right there with you andBrett, we'll be bald brothers except I'll have a mustache.

[00:36:52] Andrew: And I have a mustache every once in awhile with this, so I get it. Um, it's, it's super freeing to be bald though.If anybody, you know what let's, anybody listening that wants to shave theirhead? Give me a hollerer. It is phenomenal. I. Almost every day still. And it'sbeen like nine months and I'm still almost every day like, oh, this is the bestdecision of my life. this is, it feels so good. But, uh, anyways, well, you'llget there. You'll probably wish you would've done it sooner, but uh, wheneveryou're ready, man, you let me know. I got you.

[00:37:29] Daniel: fair.

[00:37:30] Andrew: I might even, I might even take therazor for you. Well, right guys, that's it for now. Uh, keep. Up with thewebsite. That's where we'll have all of the information for this last challengeyou can find.

At the old episode, we'll have a little link in the new episodeshow notes as well, but going forward, you'll see the challenge. Number eight,facial. We'll just call it the facial. This that'll be really weird to say outloud, but that's what we're gonna do. Keep up with us and we'll try and youguys update on how it goes and if Daniel and I, uh, magically turn intobeautiful men.

So until next time we look forward to connecting with you.